narkotyki/alkohol

[langfuhr]

Jak w temacie. Wiadomo, że wojacy wielkiej wojny fasofali alkohol, czytałem że niemcy w stalingradzie trzymali sie na amfetaminie, lotnicy zresztą też. Wg. IPN, a przynajmniej przesłuchanych świadków podczas pacyfikacji" w latach 70/80 wojsko było zćpane. Może wiecie więc jak to wyglądało/wygląda od strony formalnej? Czy są np. jakieś instrukcje?

[a.korbaczewski]

pewnie takie instrukcje jak na wydawanie chleba i smalcu.
dodam że spadochroniarze w Arnhem teś troche sobie benzydryny dawali.

[beny]

Jest filmik w necie jak testują LSD na brytyjskich żołnierzach, można ściągnąć z emula, niestety nie mam żadnego linku

[Lokomotywa]

tak to ogolnie znany fakt - spod Stalingradu zamawiali go drogą internetową z priorytetowa wysyłką

[woyta]

Krótki rys historyczny

Na świecie mało jest prac naukowych na temat amfetaminy. Jej synteza została przeprowadzona w 1887 roku i praktycznie do lat dwudziestych naszego stulecia nie była stosowana.

Od 1930 roku siarczan amfetaminy był stosowany jako lek. Wykorzystywano powodowany przez niego brak łaknienia w leczeniu otyłości. Leczono nim również astmę, czasem depresję, głównie jednak był stosowany w leczeniu narkolepsji (nagłym niekontrolowanym zasypianiu). Szybko zauważono jednak, że przy stosowaniu tego leku występuje bezsenność, niemniej jednak próbowano nim leczyć migreny, impotencję czy też chorobę morską.

W czasie II wojny światowej amfetamina była podawana żołnierzom, praktycznie wszystkich armii. Stosowali ją Anglicy i Niemcy. Znosiła potrzebę snu, łaknienie, usuwała zmęczenie. żołnierze mieli poczucie, że są niezwyciężeni. Mieli poczucie dużej siły i mocy, wiarę w zwycięstwo. Czuli się pewni możliwości, mogli zwiększyć wysiłek.

Żołnierzom amerykańskim, którzy walczyli na Malajach w bardzo trudnych warunkach klimatycznych - po amfetaminie wydawało się, że lepiej znoszą trudy walki, są efektywniejsi, bardziej skuteczni.
Okazało się jednak, że wielu z nich trafiło prosto z linii frontu do szpitali psychiatrycznych.
Wtedy sądzono, że występujące u nich zaburzenia psychiczne są bardziej wynikiem przebywania w tropiku i warunk6w walki niż działania amfetaminy.
Podawano amfetaminę także lotnikom - głównie załogom autobusów" bombowców, biorących udział w długotrwałych nalotach na Niemcy.
Ze względów technicznych (technologicznych) stosowana amfa (benzyhudryna?) była bardzo brudna w porównaniu do stosowanych dzisiaj odmian. Stąd też skutki uboczne były bardziej iemiłe" dla stosującego ja delikwenta.
Również na Dalekim Wschodzie, w Japonii, stosowano amfetaminę. Podawano ją młodym kamikadze", którzy byli zdolni do wszystkiego" - wykonywali zadania przekraczające ludzkie możliwości i ginęli ku chwale cesarza". Po wojnie zapasy wojskowe amfetaminy" stały się ogólnie dostępne wywołując u wielu używających amfetaminę - zaburzenia psychiczne.

W okresie wojny koreańskiej czy później na szerszą skalę w Wietnamie popularne stały się psychotropy (LSD25), trawka, i najmocniejsza kokaina.

Efekt był taki sam - wzmocnienie wiary w siebie, halucynacje (jestem Buce Lee - nikt mi nie podskoczy itp.), brak samokontroli, niekiedy tendencje do samodestrukcji itp.

Wiadomo, że Armia Cz. stosowała powszechnie setkę (spirytusu) dla kurażu, przed natarciem. Podnosiło to bardzo morale", wiarę w swoje siły, tłumiło wszelkie opory przed wyjściem z okopu (nie licząc stojacych z tyłu NKWD-ów).

pzdr woyta

[Boruta]

Czytałem, że piloci mieli specjalną czekoladę z narkotykiem, co im pozwalało na wiekszą ruchliwość i nie zasypiali.
Pozdrawiam

[maxikasek]

zwłaszcza 100 gram na czczo. Żarcie często nie dojeżdżało a i sołdaty nie chcieli jeść przed atakiem (mniejsza możliwość powikłań przy postrzale w brzuch).

[kokesh]

Ciekawe czy w naszej armi już tej ludowej poza bromem idelbetą czymś nas szprycowano ????

[imperorr]

mam filmik jak anglicy testuja dzialanie LSD na swoich zolnierzach.
jeden nawet wszedl na drzewo itd.

co do naszej armii to kiedys w rozmowie z lekarzem pytalismy sie z kumplem po co tyle fiolek z napisem amfe cos tam okazalo sie ze na wypadek W, oraz ze w czasie stanu wojennego okazalo sie ze niewolno ich podawac po wysilku bo organizm niewytrzymuje, podaje sie ja przed.

[langfuhr]

woyta, dzieki za rysik, p.Lokomotywa jako stary trep i znany tropiciel mocheru musi bronic swej instytucji...

[Lokomotywa]

Lokomotywa to także niezrownany tropiciel głupoty i bajdurzenia a jako stary trep wie doskonale ze żadne tego rodzaju medykamenty nie były potrzebne ani niemcom ani zomowcom

[Darek419]

U Rosjan w Wielkiej Ojczyżnianej 100g było normalną dzienną dawką.Należało się jak psu buda.A że były problemy z dostawą to przepadało i nikt nie wydawał wyrównania.pozdro Darek.


puk puk kto tam.
100 gram.

[langfuhr]

ależ sierżanci rachuby musieli sie kiwac! jeśli po walce wydawano alkohol rozdysponowany na papierze wczesniej, to każdy poległy zasilał gardło intendentury

[tadek80]

a swistak siedzi i zawija sreberka ... ruscy i narkotyki w latach 40-tych :)

[kokesh]

Palilem kiedyś takie ruskie cygarety chba BIEŁOMORCE lepiej keeciły niż marycha

[michałł]

A pamiętacie słynną iemiecką czekoladę dla lotników na bezsenność " zdobytą prze powstańców na Stawkach?

[woyta]

Ktoś napisał, że Niemcy nie brali. Niżej artykuł zaprzeczający tej tezie.

Hitler's Drugged Soldiers by Andreas Ulrich

The Nazis preached abstinence in the name of promoting national health. But when it came to fighting their Blitzkrieg, they had no qualms about pumping their soldiers full of drugs and alcohol. Speed was the drug of choice, but many others became addicted to morphine and alcohol.

In a letter dated November 9, 1939, to his "dear parents and siblings back home in Cologne, a young soldier stationed in occupied Poland wrote: "It's tough out here, and I hope you'll understand if I'm only able to write to you once every two to four days soon. Today I'm writing you mainly to ask for some Pervitin ...; Love, Hein.

Pervitin, a stimulant commonly known as speed today, was the German army's -- the Wehrmacht's -- wonder drug.

On May 20, 1940, the 22-year-old soldier wrote to his family again: "Perhaps you could get me some more Pervitin so that I can have a backup supply? And, in a letter sent from Bromberg on July 19, 1940, he wrote: "If at all possible, please send me some more Pervitin. The man who wrote these letters became a famous writer later in life. He was Heinrich Boell, and in 1972 he was the first German to be awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in the post-war period.

Many of the Wehrmacht's soldiers were high on Pervitin when they went into battle, especially against Poland and France -- in a Blitzkrieg fueled by speed. The German military was supplied with millions of methamphetamine tablets during the first half of 1940. The drugs were part of a plan to help pilots, sailors and infantry troops become capable of superhuman performance. The military leadership liberally dispensed such stimulants, but also alcohol and opiates, as long as it believed drugging and intoxicating troops could help it achieve victory over the Allies. But the Nazis were less than diligent in monitoring side-effects like drug addiction and a decline in moral standards.

After it was first introduced into the market in 1938, Pervitin, a methamphetamine drug newly developed by the Berlin-based Temmler pharmaceutical company, quickly became a top seller among the German civilian population. According to a report in the Klinische Wochenschrift ("Clinical Weekly), the supposed wonder drug was brought to the attention of Otto Ranke, a military doctor and director of the Institute for General and Defense Physiology at Berlin's Academy of Military Medicine. The effects of amphetamines are similar to those of the adrenaline produced by the body, triggering a heightened state of alert. In most people, the substance increases self-confidence, concentration and the willingness to take risks, while at the same time reducing sensitivity to pain, hunger and thirst, as well as reducing the need for sleep. In September 1939, Ranke tested the drug on 90 university students, and concluded that Pervitin could help the Wehrmacht win the war. At first Pervitin was tested on military drivers who participated in the invasion of Poland. Then, according to criminologist Wolf Kemper, it was "unscrupulously distributed to troops fighting at the front.
Thirty-five million tablets
During the short period between April and July of 1940, more than 35 million tablets of Pervitin and Isophan (a slightly modified version produced by the Knoll pharmaceutical company) were shipped to the German army and air force. Some of the tablets, each containing three milligrams of active substance, were sent to the Wehrmacht's medical divisions under the code name OBM, and then distributed directly to the troops. A rush order could even be placed by telephone if a shipment was urgently needed. The packages were labeled "Stimulant, and the instructions recommended a dose of one to two tablets "only as needed, to maintain sleeplessness.

Even then, doctors were concerned about the fact that the regeneration phase after taking the drug was becoming increasingly long, and that the effect was gradually decreasing among frequent users. In isolated cases, users experienced health problems like excessive perspiration and circulatory disorders, and there were even a few deaths. Leonardo Conti, the German Reich's minister of health and an adherent of Adolf Hitler's belief in asceticism, attempted to restrict the use of the pill, but was only moderately successful, at least when it came to the Wehrmacht. Although Pervitin was classified as a restricted substance on July 1, 1941, under the Opium Law, ten million tablets were shipped to troops that same year.

Pervitin was generally viewed as a proven drug to be used when soldiers were likely to be subjected to extreme stress. A memorandum for navy medical officers stated the following: "Every medical officer must be aware that Pervitin is a highly differentiated and powerful stimulant, a tool that enables him, at any time, to actively and effectively help certain individuals within his range of influence achieve above-average performance.
"Their spirits suddenly improved
The effects were seductive. In January 1942, a group of 500 German soldiers stationed on the eastern front and surrounded by the Red Army were attempting to escape. The temperature was minus 30 degrees Celsius. A military doctor assigned to the unit wrote in his report that at around midnight, six hours into their escape through snow that was waist-deep in places, "more and more soldiers were so exhausted that they were beginning to simply lie down in the snow. The group's commanding officers decided to give Pervitin to their troops. "After half an hour, the doctor wrote, "the men began spontaneously reporting that they felt better. They began marching in orderly fashion again, their spirits improved, and they became more alert.

It took almost six months for the report to reach the military's senior medical command. But its response was merely to issue new guidelines and instructions for using Pervitin, including information about risks that barely differed from earlier instructions. The "Guidelines for Detecting and Combating Fatigue, issued June 18, 1942, were the same as they had always been: "Two tablets taken once eliminate the need to sleep for three to eight hours, and two doses of two tablets each are normally effective for 24 hours.

Toward the end of the war, the Nazis were even working on a miracle pill for their troops. In the northern German seaport of Kiel, on March 16, 1944, then Vice-Admiral Hellmuth Heye, who later became a member of parliament with the conservative Christian Democratic party and head of the German parliament's defense committee, requested a drug "that can keep soldiers ready for battle when they are asked to continue fighting beyond a period considered normal, while at the same time boosting their self-esteem.

A short time later, Kiel pharmacologist Gerhard Orzechowski presented Heye with a pill code-named D-IX. It contained five milligrams of cocaine, three milligrams of Pervitin and five milligrams of Eukodal (a morphine-based painkiller). Nowadays, a drug dealer caught with this potent a drug would be sent to prison. At the time, however, the drug was tested on crew members working on the navy's smallest submarines, known as the "Seal and the "Beaver.
Alcohol consumption was encouraged
Alcohol, the people's drug, was also popular in the Wehrmacht. Referring to alcohol, Walter Kittel, a general in the medical corps, wrote that "only a fanatic would refuse to give a soldier something that can help him relax and enjoy life after he has faced the horrors of battle, or would reprimand him for enjoying a friendly drink or two with his comrades. Officers would distribute alcohol to their troops as a reward, and schnapps was routinely sold in military commissaries, a policy that also had the happy side effect of returning soldiers' pay to the military.

"The military command turned a blind eye to alcohol consumption, as long as it didn't lead to public drunkenness among the troops, says Freiburg historian Peter Steinkamp, an expert on drug abuse in the Wehrmacht.

But in July 1940, after France was defeated, Hitler issued the following order: "I expect that members of the Wehrmacht who allow themselves to be tempted to engage in criminal acts as a result of alcohol abuse will be severely punished. Serious offenders could even expect "a humiliating death.

But the temptations of liquor were apparently more powerful that the Fuehrer's threats. Only a year later, the commander-in-chief of the German military, General Walther von Brauchitsch, concluded that his troops were committing "the most serious infractions of morality and discipline, and that the culprit was "alcohol abuse. Among the adverse effects of alcohol abuse he cited were fights, accidents, mistreatment of subordinates, violence against superior officers and "crimes involving unnatural sexual acts. The general believed that alcohol was jeopardizing "discipline within the military.

According to an internal statistic compiled by the chief of the medical corps, 705 military deaths between September 1939 and April 1944 could be linked directly to alcohol. The unofficial figure was probably much higher, because traffic accidents, accidents involving weapons and suicides were frequently caused by alcohol use. Medical officers were instructed to admit alcoholics and drug addicts to treatment facilities. According to an order issued by the medical service, this solution had "the advantage that it could be extended indefinitely. Once incarcerated in these facilities, addicts were evaluated under the provisions of the "Law for Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases, and could even be subjected to forced sterilization and euthanasia.

Executing a bootlegger
The number of cases in which soldiers became blind or even died after consuming methyl alcohol began to increase. From 1939 on, the University of Berlin's Institute of Forensic Medicine consistently listed methyl alcohol as the leading factor in deaths resulting from the inadvertent ingestion of poisons.

The execution of a 36-year-old officer in Norway in the fall of 1942 was intended to set an example. The officer, who was a driver, had sold five liters of methyl alcohol, which he claimed was 98 percent alcohol and could be used to produce liquor, to an infantry regiment's anti-tank defense unit. Several soldiers fell ill, and two died. The man, deemed an "enemy of the people, was executed by a firing squad. According to the daily order issued on October 2, 1942, "the punishment shall be announced to the troops and auxiliary units, and it shall be used as a tool for repeated and insistent admonishment.

But soldiers apparently felt that anything that could help them escape the horrors of war was justifiable. Despite general knowledge of the risks involved, morphine addiction became widespread among the wounded and medical personnel during the course of the war. Four times as many military doctors were addicted to morphine by 1945 than at the beginning of the war.

Franz Wertheim, a medical officer who was sent to a small village near the Western Wall on May 10, 1940, wrote the following account: "To help pass the time, we doctors experimented on ourselves. We would begin the day by drinking a water glass of cognac and taking two injections of morphine. We found cocaine to be useful at midday, and in the evening we would occasionally take Hyoskin, an alkaloid derived from some varieties of the nightshade plant that is used as a medication. Wertheim adds: "As a result, we were not always fully in command of our senses.

German doctors experimented on themselves
To prevent an "outbreak of morphinism, as occurred after the last war, Professor Otto Wuth, a master sergeant and consulting psychiatrist to the military's senior medical command, wrote a "Proposal to Combat Morphinism in February 1941. Under Wuth's proposal, all wounded who became addicted as a result of treatment were to be centrally recorded and reported to the "District Medical Board, where they would be either legally provided with morphine or routinely examined and sent to drug rehabilitation treatment centers. "In this manner, Wuth concluded, "morphine addicts will be recorded and monitored, and the entire group will be prevented from becoming criminal.

The Nazi leadership was more lenient with those who became drug-addicted as a result of the war than with alcoholics, probably because the Wehrmacht was concerned that it could be sued for damages, because it was in fact responsible for dispensing the drugs in the first place.

Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan"


pzdr woyta

[woyta]

Niejaki Adolf H. też był szprycowany amfą

From 1942, the Nazi leader Adolf Hitler received daily injections of methamphetamine from his personal physician, Dr Theodor Morell. Hitler's ailments have been attributed to everything from tertiary syphilis to Parkinson's disease. But many of The Führer's clinical signs and symptoms may have been caused by his exotic drug regimen.
In Hitler's Wehrmacht, methamphetamine tablets branded as Pervitin were liberally distributed to German fighting troops throughout the War. Amphetamines are power drugs" that reduce fatigue, heighten aggression, and diminish human warmth and empathy.
How could Hitler continue to exert such a grip on the German people until the last days of the War? Talking to a prison psychologist while awaiting trial, ex-Governor General of Poland Hans Frank (1900-1946) describes Hitler's charismatic effect on him...
I can hardly understand it myself. There must be some basic evil in me. In all men. Mass hypnosis? Hitler cultivated this evil in man. When I saw him in that movie in court, I was swept along again for a moment, in spite of myself. Funny, one sits in court feeling guilt and shame. Then Hitler appears on the screen and you want to stretch out your hand to him . . . . It's not with horns on his head or with a forked tail that the devil comes to us, you know. He comes with a captivating smile, spouting idealistic sentiments, winning one's loyalty. We cannot say that Adolf Hitler violated the German people. He seduced us."


Synonimy = amfetaminy:

(+-)-alpha-methylbenzeneethanamine;
(+-)-alpha-Methylphenethylamine;
(+-)-Benzedrine; (+-)-Desoxynorephedrine;
Actedron; Adipan; Allodene;
alpha-Methylbenzeneethaneamine;
Anorexide; dl-1-Phenyl-2-aminopropane;
dl-alpha-Methylphenethylamine;
dl-Amphetamine; dl-Benzedrine;
Elastonon; Fenylo-izopropylaminyl;
Finam; Isoamycin; Isomyn;
Mecodrin; Norephedrane;
Norephedrine, deoxy-; Novydrine;
Ortedrine; Phenedrine;
Profamina; Propisamine;
racemic-Desoxynor-ephedrine; Raphetamine;
Rhinalator; Simpatedrin;
Sympamine; Sympatedrine;
Weckamine

pzdr woyta

[woyta]

Tak to wyglądało. Lata 40-e

pzdr woyta

[woyta]

Do wdychania. Wojenne zapasy USA - zużyć do 06.1949 :)

pzdr woyta

[pik78]

Woyta ,to tera na ludzki przełóż te angielskie wypociny! Dziady z forum jezykow obcych ,poza ruskim ,nie znają ! A mi osobiscie nie chce się tego czytac po angielsku -taki ze mnie leniuszek...

pzdr

[pik78]

taki kozak jestes to przeloz to na polski i wklej znowu na forum i bedzieto jakis wklad w dyskusję !
Podzielam zdanie płk .Lokomotywy-TOTALNA BZDURA ! JAKI LSD ,JAKA AMFA...

Polecam udac sie na terapię do najblizszej placowki Monaru...

[Mauser]

albo troszkę dociekliwiej poszperać w starych dokumentach :)

Pozdro

[zeton]

pik78 to ze ci sie to w glowie nie miesci to nieznaczy ze to bzdura. Jakos nie masz nic konkretnego w tej kwesti do powiedzenia. Proponuje troche poczytac na temat zanim sie cos nazwie totalna bzdura. A jak ci sie niechce to daruj sobie rownierz negacje tego oczym nie masz pojecia. To ze Pervitin by powszechnie dostepny w aptekach w latach 40-tych jest faktem. Popytaj kolegow z medycyny, jak masz, o amfetamine w leczeniu nadpobudliwosci u dzieci. Tez bys sie mogl zdziwic. W Ukladzie Warszawskim w produkcji LSD specjalizowala sie Czechoslowacja. Akurat to sa dosyc dobrze sprawdzone fakty. Zarowno podawanie Pervitinu zolnierza jak i uzaleznienie Adolfa. Ernst Udet tez popijal Pervitin alkoholem co troche go trzepalo mocno. Zreszta wiele w tej kwesti do dzisiaj sie niezmienilo. Chlopcy jak latali nad Irak tez dostawali abletki GO. Wyszlo to przy okazji sledztwa w sprawie Friendly fire. Sprawa szybko ucichla.

[marcin.lubuskie]

ki Adolf H. też był szprycowany amfą

Od 1942, Nazi lider, który Adolf Hitler otrzymał codzienne wtryski metamfetaminy od jego osobistego lekarza, Dr Theodor Morell. Dolegliwości Hitler zostały przypisane do wszystkiego od trzeciorzędnej kiły do choroby Parkinson. Ale kliniczne znaki dużo Führer i symptomy mogły zostać spowodowany przez jego egzotyczną zasadę higieny leku.
W Wehrmacht Hitler, tabletki metamfetaminy znakowały jako Pervitin hojnie został rozprowadzony do German oddziałów walki przez War. Amfetaminy są lekami władzy" które zmniejszają znużenie, zwiększą agresję i zmniejszają ludzkie ciepło i empatię.
Jak Hitler mógłby kontynuować stosować taki uścisk na German ludziach do ostatnich dni War? Rozmawiając z więziennym psychologiem kiedy oczekując próbę, eks Governor General Poland Hans Frank (1900-1946) opisuje charyzmatyczny skutek Hitler na nim...
Mogę ledwie zrozumieć to się. Musi być jakieś podstawowe zło w mnie. W wszystkich ludziach. Hipnoza masy? Hitler kultywował to zło w człowieku. Kiedy I widziałem jego w tym filmie w sądzie, I zostałem zamieciony dalej znów na chwilę, pomimo się. Zabawny, usiądzie w winie uczucia sądu i wstydzie. Wtedy Hitler ukazuje się na ekranie i chcesz wyciągnąć twoją rękę do jego . . . . To nie jest z rogami na jego głowie albo z rozwidlonym ogonem, że diabeł przychodzi do nas, wiesz. On przychodzi z urokliwym uśmiechem, wypuszczając strugę idealistyczne sentymenty, wygrywającym one's lojalności. Nie możemy powiedzieć, że Adolf Hitler naruszył German ludzi. On uwiódł nas."


Synonimy = amfetaminy:

(+-)-alfa - methylbenzeneethanamine;
(+-)-alfa - Methylphenethylamine;
(+-)-Benzedrine; (+-)-Desoxynorephedrine;
Actedron; Adipan; Allodene;
alfa - Methylbenzeneethaneamine;
Anorexide; Phenyl 1 dl-2 - aminopropan;
dl - alfa - Methylphenethylamine;
dl - Amphetamine; dl - Benzedrine;
Elastonon; Fenylo - izopropylaminyl;
Finam; Isoamycin; Isomyn;
Mecodrin; Norephedrane;
Norephedrine, deoxy -; Novydrine;
Ortedrine; Phenedrine;
Profamina; Propisamine;
racemiczny - Desoxynor - efedryna; Raphetamine;
Rhinalator; Simpatedrin;
Sympamine; Sympatedrine;
Weckamine
Witam oto przetłumaczone na polski pozdrawiam