Arseon Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 taki guzior czy to herbowiec szlachecki czy urzędniczy np. carski ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomsee Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 To drugie to też kotwica ale poczwórna.No, populares to nie jest.Aha, forma orła (o ile to carski) to wzór z lat 1825 - 1857.Post został zmieniony ostatnio przez moderatora pomsee 15:57 02-04-2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomsee Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 No i wszystko jasne: Gubernia St. Petersburgska.Post został zmieniony ostatnio przez moderatora pomsee 16:01 02-04-2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arseon Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 dzięki pomsee czyli carska marynarka z przed 1857-egoczyli nosili go oficerowie carskiej marynarki,admiralicji ?może na pugovizie jest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arseon Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 thank you for your help ded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomsee Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 To jest guzik urzędniczy gubernii petersburskiej.Na pugovizie jest:http://www.pugoviza.ru/files/class_butt_cat.shtml?d=1&n=g_spb_m&fn=g_spb_mPost został zmieniony ostatnio przez moderatora pomsee 19:10 02-04-2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arseon Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 taki guzior czy to herbowiec szlachecki czy urzędniczy np. carski ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arseon Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 A 3za wszelki id fenkspozdro > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ded Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 А Зскорее всего пуговичная фабрика при Александровском Заводе, которая с 1797 года производила пуговицы для нужд армии и гражданских министерств и ведомств.пуговка не позднее 1878 года. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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